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Foo

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posted November 06, 2001 20:01      Profile for Foo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
hopefully this is in the right forum...

so i was in class today and the group presenting their project brought up the debate of wheter gay ppl should be allowed to have kids or not. i personally think that they should be able to do whatever they want. they are eual and we shouldnt limit their freedom because their sexuality isnt what we've seen traditionally. they are still ordinary people

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posted November 06, 2001 20:04      Profile for nose over tail   Email nose over tail   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
good luck giving birth... OUT OF YOUR ASS! actually, i think they should be aloud to adopt kids if they want to. like you said, they're ordinary people with ordinary rights. i'm sure a lot of people would lump them into the "child molester" stereotype and thats sad. but yes... i do think they should be aloud to raise kids, just like anyone else.
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w3rd souljah

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posted November 06, 2001 20:09      Profile for w3rd souljah   Author's Homepage   Email w3rd souljah   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hot tip: There is a debate forum!


Gays do what they want. I do what I want. Everyone is happy. Except those silly religious nuts. People raised by gay kids would probably get picked on.

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Kristin
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posted November 06, 2001 21:37           Edit/Delete Post
i think we've had something like this on a previous board. but of course they should be able to have kids. they're humans, human rights damnit. and does having kids also mean should they have kids if they were married to a man or woman before and then they were devorced and became gay or lesbian? cause that would be stupid to keep them from seeing their child/children. people are just stupid, a lot of homophobic people tend to think if the kids are raised by homosexual parents then the kid(s) will become gay. lame.

something pretty unrelated... my school suspended two girls for making out. really lame. they said it was because there isn't supposed to be any public desply of affection yet every couple that is not same sex kiss all the time. infact when i walk down the hall i can actually see their tounges go into their mouths! and they also said the girls were "causing a scene" but it's really cause this whole fucking city is full of homophobic car/truck loving 300 dollar sunglass-owning assholes.

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: Kristin ]


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posted November 06, 2001 22:05      Profile for w3rd souljah   Author's Homepage   Email w3rd souljah   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I think the real issue is:


Were they hot???

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Erimica

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posted November 06, 2001 22:23      Profile for Erimica   Email Erimica   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
i think a good question to ask yourself is "if i was an adoption agent [yeah, ok], would i allow a child into this family?"
remember, you're not just evaluating the parents-to-be, but the enviroment you're putting the child into. however nice and loving the family is, a child of a gay couple could very well be exposed to a lot of violence from his/her peers.

i, however, think it's shit that this situation is even a situation. people are people. people have kids. people are also ignorant. and close minded.
so the chances of an adoption agency giving a gay couple a child is slim, but not unheard of.

(if i didn't get my view across, yes, i think they should be allowed to have children)

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w3rd souljah

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posted November 06, 2001 22:42      Profile for w3rd souljah   Author's Homepage   Email w3rd souljah   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Furthermore, the media creates a presence of gay people as sex craving maniacs. I have included several scenarios I have seen on the TV.

Scenario 1:
[gay couple in apartment]
Steve: Hey, let's have pizza tonight, snaggfoo.
Dave: And sex!
Steve: WHY WAIT?
[commence gay action off camera]

Scenario 2:
[gay couple in apartment]
Jim: I'm gay.
Bob: Me too!
Jim: Maybe that's why we're in this sitcom together!
Bob: And sex!
Jim: YES.
[commence gay action off camera]

I think you get the idea. People are scared of these sex-craved homosexu-bots. They will corrupt our youth and limp our wrists! DOWN WITH THE GAYBOTS!


Fuck. I knew I had a point somewhere.

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Kristin
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posted November 06, 2001 23:54           Edit/Delete Post
william: i have no idea, i didn't see them. but probably not, i bet they looked just like most girls at my school. about 5'7" with their shoes, probably 3'2" without, 61 lbs, too much make up, a rag with glitter as their clothing. sounds about right.

i don't think adoption agents should really assume the kids will get beat up at school or wherever. just cause the parents are gay doesn't really mean everyone will know. the kid might never ever let their friends over to their house because they're paranoid of what their friends will think. you never know.


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posted November 07, 2001 07:15      Profile for StarWarsManiac   Author's Homepage   Email StarWarsManiac   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I agree with most of you, homosexual men should be able to adopt kids and raise them. NOT have them (like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Junior!). Freedom in this country is doing what you want with facing the consequences. From what I've experienced, the kid and parents wouldn't be accepted (at my school anyway), but that is what the parents need to think about. Maybe it's time to move to Greenwich Village? In all seriousness, gays should have the right!

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w3rd souljah

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posted November 07, 2001 09:55      Profile for w3rd souljah   Author's Homepage   Email w3rd souljah   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
OK. It has been brought to my attention that these scenarios I have included were from gay porn. I didn't know they were gay porn, but they were on video tape and I did watch them 16 times. They still had a lot of good jokes! Anyone could have made that mistake!


P.S. One kid I knew once had two moms and no one seemed to care.

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posted November 07, 2001 16:18      Profile for Zesty   Email Zesty   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Yes, gay people should definetly be allowed to adopt kids if they so choose.

What I have a problem with is when gay people (especially males) go get a surrogate mother to have their baby or something. It's not really their baby! It's the child of only one person in the relationship. The idea of females having a biological child doesn't seem as bad to me, maybe because (most of the time) they actually carry the baby around for 9 months.

I dunno...the whole process of homosexuals having biological kids just seems so artificial. Like they are trying to hard to emulate a hetrosexual relationship.

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